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An Educated Ministry

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, May 14, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



Maybe one of the toughest chapters for me to review in Pagan Christianity is the one on educating church leaders. As someone who has three degrees in theology I am almost bound to find fault in what they say. Let me make two points straight off, therefore, and you can judge whether I have been prejudicial or not.

Critique

To begin with it is odd to find such a strong argument against a higher or university education in theology within a book that is so well researched itself. Viola and Barna ha...

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Sacraments and Empty Ritual

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, April 30, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



‘The Supper has become an empty ritual officiated by a clergyman, rather than a shared-life experience enjoyed by the church.’ These are particularly strong words by Viola and Barna in Pagan Christianity in a chapter tackling both sacraments – Communion and Baptism. Let’s see how they arrive at this conclusion.

Baptism and the sinner's prayer

Their central point about Baptism's place in church life is that it was replaced by the ‘sinner’s prayer’ in the nineteenth century. I find ...

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Tithing and Full-time Ministry

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, April 23, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



Is tithing biblical? After seeing Viola and Barna’s views in Pagan Christianity on so many other subjects it will not surprise you to learn that on this issue too they take a contrary view to most of the contemporary church. While tithing is certainly an Old Testament principle – and an important one at that – it does not feature in the life of the first century church as a requirement made of the followers of Jesus.

Tithing as tax

In analysing where the practice came from PC goes into so...

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Dressing up for church

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, April 16, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



'A specially attired clergy is an affront to the spiritual principles that govern the house of God.' Well I get the point that Viola and Barna make here in Pagan Christianity but I'm not sure this chapter deserves its place in the book.

Dressing up

The chapter opens with a section on why 'dressing up for church' is not a good thing and suggests three reasons why this is the case. First, the practice assumes a 'false division between the secular and the sacred'. To be different on a Sunday is a ...

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The Pastor

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, March 12, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



Consistently hitting nails on the head Viola and Barna turn to the role of the pastor in the fifth chapter of Pagan Christianity and claim, ‘There is not a single verse in the entire New Testament that supports the existence of the modern-day pastor! He simply did not exist in the early church.’ Once again it is a big claim and once again they take their readers through the historical evidence showing how the role of pastor developed into what it is today.

Early hierarchy

That there were le...

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Stop Preaching at Me!

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, February 27, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



‘The church needs fewer pulpiteers and more spiritual facilitators.’ Ouch! Of all the chapters in Viola and Barna’s Pagan Christianity it is the one on ‘the sermon’ that makes me most uncomfortable. It isn’t because I disagree with their conclusions, however, but because I can see how much of my own identity has been wrapped up in my work as a preacher. And maybe there’s a lesson for many here in that when we receive so much affirmation from our church work any attack on that wo...

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Participatory worship

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, February 20, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



‘No matter how loudly Pentecostals claim that they are following New Testament patterns, the typical Pentecostal or charismatic church follows the same order of worship as do most other Protestant bodies.’ Another stinger of a sentence by Viola and Barna in Pagan Christianity as they look at the roots of worship in church.

Protestant roots

The Pentecostal tradition, they claim quite correctly, has its roots in the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century but with the added ingredient of ...

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The redundant church building

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, February 13, 2012, In : Pagan influences 




‘There does not exist a shred of biblical support for the church building.’ So say Viola and Barna in Pagan Christianity. And of course they are correct. We don’t see the early followers of Jesus as depicted in the Bible erecting special buildings for the sole purpose of holding any kind of service to God. In itself though, this may not be enough of a reason to say we shouldn’t have them today. The key to PC’s argument against having a church building is that it is ‘an architect...

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Reformation of the church

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, February 6, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



As they embarked on their quest to find where many of our church practices have originated, Viola and Barna speak for many when they say in Pagan Christianity that they ‘ardently want their relationship with the Lord to be their top priority in life. They are tired of the institutions, denominations, and routines getting in the way of a resonant connection with Him’. If you’re mumbling to yourself right now, ‘That’s exactly how I feel’; then welcome on the journey. You are most de...

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Pagan Christianity

Posted by Dyfed on Monday, January 30, 2012, In : Pagan influences 



Pagan Christianity
. The title says it all, does it not? And if you had any doubts about the contents of Frank Viola and George Barna’s book then their sub-title makes it even clearer – Exploring the roots of our church practices. Their central theme is that practices not ordained by God in Jesus have entered church life; practices first devised by pagans and introduced into the church and over the centuries have become the accepted way of doing things.

Church practices

Viola and Barna are i...

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